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    Quote Originally Posted by 21STEELERS21 View Post
    How would your children be at risk, if they already have their vaccinations?
    Same question go for parents up in arms about other kids not getting vaccinated?

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    SHUT IT DOWN AND KEEP IT SHUT DOWN!

    Here we go gentlemen.

    I’m A Senior Trump Official, And I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes Out The Resistance


    Unlike the recent fake NY Times op ed in which an anonymous "Trump administration employee" writes about the dysfunction of the Trump Administration, an actual Trump official lays out the truth.
    Gee, why doesn't the NY Times print this story so as to cover both sides???

    As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the president’s next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.

    Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.

    The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.




    On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.

    Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position — some do this in the same position for more than a decade. (RELATED: diGenova and Toensing: Judge Napolitano Is Wrong On The Law and The Facts)

    They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands — administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. “Process is your friend” is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.

    Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie (career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process — even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.



    Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the president’s agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown. (RELATED: Former FBI Chief: Only Wray Can Repair FBI After Disgraces of Comey, McCabe and Strzok)

    Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up — a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily.

    When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews, and we promote them.

    Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged, and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.

    The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, “is morally wrong,” as one cried to me.

    I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, “The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, that’s when you will run into trouble.” (RELATED: If Ginsburg Retires, Democrats Have A Trump Card — Packing The Supreme Court)

    But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.

    President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the president’s agenda.

    President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for America’s interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.

    The president should add to his demands, including a vote on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders. (RELATED: New Facts Indicate Mueller Destroyed Evidence, Obstructed Justice)

    A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.

    The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.

    Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.

    The president’s instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

    The author is a senior official in the Trump administration
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    Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions
    How can we not miss them when every time we turn on the news they keep reminding us that we should be missing them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy92040 View Post
    " How can we not miss them when every time we turn on the news they keep reminding us that we should be missing them?
    That's why I try to stay as far away from the "news" as I can. I can't stand it anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndySteel View Post
    The working class is leaving. The pace will pick up when their high taxes are raised even more.
    Yep. Guess where several of my neighbors are from? And guess what we have in common?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    I found out the do-not-call website is down and I can't report the telemarketers.
    You know, that donotcall.gov is a bunch of bullshit, or at least for the state I live in (if we can call it a state anymore), I registered my cell and I ended up getting 5x the telemarketing calls. They've quieted down but I couldn't believe I got even more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeltime View Post
    Yep. Guess where several of my neighbors are from? And guess what we have in common?
    "Leaving California with a rejoicing in my heart."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21STEELERS21 View Post
    How would your children be at risk, if they already have their vaccinations?
    Called herd mentality. Thatís why all the hippy bitch parents kids that wonít allow their kids to get vaccinated are spreading measles at one of the highest rates in decades.

    Herd immunity is a form of immunity that occurs when the vaccination of a significant portion of a population (or herd) provides a measure of protection for individuals who have not developed immunity.í



    It arises when a high percentage of the population is protected through vaccination against a virus or bacteria, making it difficult for a disease to spread because there are so few susceptible people left to infect.

    This can effectively stop the spread of disease in the community. It is particularly crucial for protecting people who cannot be vaccinated. These include children who are too young to be vaccinated, people with immune system problems, and those who are too ill to receive vaccines (such as some cancer patients).

    The proportion of the population which must be immunised in order to achieve herd immunity varies for each disease but the underlying idea is simple: once enough people are protected, they help to protect vulnerable members of their communities by reducing the spread of the disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21STEELERS21 View Post
    How would your children be at risk, if they already have their vaccinations?
    Not that I expect you to know this but vaccinations aren't all given at birth. Many vaccines are given when children are a certain age. Like MMR shots which are given from 12-15 months then again 4 years to 6 years. So if they come into contact with someone BEFORE those ages they could get measles, mumps or rubella (German measles). Why don't people understand this? Did you really not know this? Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21STEELERS21 View Post
    How would your children be at risk, if they already have their vaccinations?
    if they don't have those vaccines, then what else could they have? certainly an esteemed author such as yourself, one who regularly conducts research into the habits and cultures of other locales and their peoples, wouldn't assume that we know of every disease and strain of that disease on the face of the planet and readily have vaccines at the ready should someone contract well, virtually any disease on the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelworth View Post
    "Leaving California with a rejoicing in my heart."
    Close. Leaving California and taking very good incomes with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21STEELERS21 View Post
    How would your children be at risk, if they already have their vaccinations?
    Vaccines donít last forever. You have heard of the booster shot I assume? Diseases evolve over time the vaccine for this region your child got at 3 may not be effective for a strain from another region 9 years later when your child is 12. Also there are diseases that have not been seen in North America that may be comming up here with the illegals as well as some that we no longer vaccinate for since they have been eradicated in the first world. Personally Iím not convinced that small pox has been wiped out completely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    Then shutdown has impacted my life exactly zero percent.
    Ahhhh....about that shutdown now. Once again the 'Merican sheeples are corralled into thinkin' this is a big deal to spend this money. All of a sudden the Dems are advocating austerity and shit. Once again the Trumptards will be blamed for little Johnny not getting his nose blown and the world will come to an end because....Trump.







    Not really, never been in a Starbucks but I get the concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelworth View Post
    You know, that donotcall.gov is a bunch of bullshit, or at least for the state I live in (if we can call it a state anymore), I registered my cell and I ended up getting 5x the telemarketing calls. They've quieted down but I couldn't believe I got even more.
    Yeah, been reporting them for years and never got any reward money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeltime View Post
    Close. Leaving California and taking very good incomes with us.
    Is California really that bad?
    My father in law says the exact same thing.

    Of course I can only say as a visitor. I enjoyed the visit.
    But not a fan of the traffic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeltime View Post
    Close. Leaving California and taking very good incomes with us.
    I was just quoting the Led Zeppelin song w/ a little lyric change, but rock on w/ yer bad self amigo. I'm jealous for sure. Mountains and just the beauty of nature out my front door? Yes please. My immediate family and business I work for resides in this piece of shit state is the only reason I'm here, but I'm developing a damn long-term plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTC View Post
    Is California really that bad?
    My father in law says the exact same thing.

    Of course I can only say as a visitor. I enjoyed the visit.
    But not a fan of the traffic.
    When you come again, make sure you let me know & look me up brother, and I'll show you the way.

    It's a cesspool for the most part. Ugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeltime View Post
    Yep. Guess where several of my neighbors are from? And guess what we have in common?
    Just get the damn plates on your cars!

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