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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport View Post
    So now there is no crisis at the border - Trump manufactured it. Just a month ago there was a massive humanitarian crisis at the border and Trump caused it. I guess he fixed it and doesn't know it.
    He's magic like that. The same way he is a evil super genius and a moron at the same time.

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    I would say The President and the majority in the U S Senate have more power than Nancy in control of the House

    LOL



    Mitch McConnell blocks Senate Democrats' move to reopen government

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blocked a move by Senate Democrats on Thursday to get the chamber to vote on spending bills to reopen the government on day 20 of the ongoing partial shutdown.

    In a back-and-forth on the Senate floor, Senate Democrats, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, on Thursday called for the Senate to take up legislation advanced by House Democrats to reopen shuttered parts of the federal government and argued that parts of the federal government not related to the border wall should be re-opened immediately as negotiations continue over the border wall, but Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell objected to the move, saying that "political stunts are not going to get us anywhere."

    McConnell has made clear that he won't take up any legislation related to the shutdown in the Senate that President Donald Trump won't sign. And the President has dug in in his refusal to sign legislation that does not meet his demand for roughly $5 billion for a border wall, which Democrats refuse to provide. "The last thing we need to do right now is trade pointless -- absolutely pointless -- show votes back and forth across the aisle," McConnell said on the floor. He added, "The political stunts are not going to get us anywhere." McConnell instead blamed Democrats for the impasse, saying that the shutdown has been "prolonged by my Democratic colleagues' refusal to even come to the table."

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/polit...own/index.html

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    Shut it down. Fuck the Democratic counties around DC. Let them experience a recession for a change.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    It doesn't take a big reduction in TSA workers to make airline travel a nightmare. Not looking forward to this, but happy to endure it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport View Post
    It doesn't take a big reduction in TSA workers to make airline travel a nightmare. Not looking forward to this, but happy to endure it.
    That doesn't effect the majority of the country. Sorry.

    The only area that is going to be seriously affected is the DC area. I am very happy about that.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    New day, same ole Democrats





    Well.... at least they are consistent.


    Proud to be everything a Liberal hates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport View Post
    It doesn't take a big reduction in TSA workers to make airline travel a nightmare. Not looking forward to this, but happy to endure it.
    It used to be done by private companies. The Airlines pushed for the formation of the TSA to limit their liability. It could be done by private companies again very easily.
    Every story needs a villain. I'm okay playing that role.

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  8. #168
    A little clarity on exactly what's going on with this Trump government shutdown, and it has nothing to do with the Dems in the House.

    Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...UJs3kbW96TUUGI

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had credible reasons to believe he could help negotiate some kind of resolution to the ongoing government shutdown. Not only does the GOP senator enjoy close ties to Donald Trump, he’s also played a key role within his party on immigration policy, having helped craft the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” bill.

    With this in mind, when there was scuttlebutt on Capitol Hill this week about Graham working behind the scenes on a possible deal, it was at least worth watching. Yesterday, however, those efforts collapsed – because of White House opposition. Politico reported:

    President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump’s border wall.

    On the 20th day of the shutdown, the GOP group tried to jump start bipartisan talks before Trump declares a national emergency to get his wall. But the president rejected their idea to allow congressional committees to sort out his border wall request while the government reopened, deeming the idea likely to leave him with nothing to show for the shutdown.

    Some of the relevant details of the plan remain elusive, but by all accounts, there was a proposal on the table. Vice President Mike Pence and acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney took it to the president, who balked.

    Of particular interest, though, is whom Graham negotiated with. In this case, the Republican South Carolinian worked on a deal with other Republicans, and Democrats were excluded from the process altogether. Despite the fact that Dems control the House, and many Democratic votes would be needed in the Senate, the party was “left out” of the talks and “were never read in” on the proposal.

    Even Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), arguably Congress’ most conservative Democrat, and a lawmaker who said he’s prepared to work on a possible compromise, wasn’t invited to the discussions.

    What we’re left with is a dynamic in which Republicans negotiated a deal with other Republicans, only to be shot down by a Republican president.

    Not surprisingly, Graham announced soon after he’d given up on trying to find a resolution to the shutdown.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    A little clarity on exactly what's going on with this Trump government shutdown, and it has nothing to do with the Dems in the House.

    Trump rejects shutdown deal Republicans negotiated with Republicans
    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...UJs3kbW96TUUGI
    Because Nancy told Trump, point blank, no money for the wall even if you open the government. Why would he open the Government to negotiate with people who won't.

    When the government unions quit getting their kickbacks, maybe the Democrats will listen?

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    That doesn't effect the majority of the country. Sorry. The only area that is going to be seriously affected is the DC area. I am very happy about that.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    I am very happy about that.
    Yeah, it's an absolute hoot

    Aside from its effects on workers and local businesses, the shutdown will also reverberate across the US economy. According to S&P Global Ratings, the shutdown could shave approximately $1.2 billion off real GDP for each week that the government is partially closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Yeah, it's an absolute hoot
    My Selective Outrage meter just went off. Sure enough, Tibor's here screaming, pouting and generally having a tantrum because Trump is mean.

    Human's repeat history because they don't learn history. You should review yours Tibor.

    In 2013, under His Lord Savior, the Black Grace, the Great Orator, the Speaker Divine, his Holiness and the FBP, he caused a 16 day Government shut down.

    It furloughed 800,000 employees and cost $24 BILLION.

    As with every other selective outrage moment, you didn't give one flying shit then. Those 800,000 people that were furloughed you did not shed a tear for.

    It is LITERALLY comical watching your foibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Steelersfan View Post
    It is LITERALLY comical watching your foibles.
    I understand it can't be easy supporting a criminal mob boss and a traitor. At some point, that's gotta chap your hide. I feel for you Timmy, really do. The life of a Trump apologist gets harder by the week. To try to sugarcoat his missteps and wanton behavior, while at once coming up with ways to distract and obfuscate. Try to hang on somehow, Timothy, you got this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    I understand it can't be easy supporting a criminal mob boss and a traitor. At some point, that's gotta chap your hide. I feel for you Timmy, really do. The life of a Trump apologist gets harder by the week. To try to sugarcoat his missteps and wanton behavior, while at once coming up with ways to distract and obfuscate. Try to hang on somehow, Timothy, you got this.

    No he is calling out your hypocrisy.

    Obama does the same thing = No big deal

    Trump does it = oh woe is me the sky is falling

    Still only guilty of winning !

    But it's coming, just wait.

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  15. #175
    Relax


    Government shutdown won’t delay tax refunds: White House


    WASHINGTON — Taxpayers who are owed refunds will be paid on time, despite the government shutdown that has closed many federal agencies, a Trump administration official said as concern mounted over the risk that the payments could be delayed.

    The acting director of the White House budget office, Russell Vought, said customary rules will be changed to make the payments possible. He told reporters that an “indefinite appropriation” was available for the refunds, which would go out as normal.

    https://nypost.com/2019/01/07/govern...ite-house/amp/

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    Quote Originally Posted by SCSteeler4life View Post
    No he is calling out your hypocrisy.

    Obama does the same thing = No big deal

    Trump does it = oh woe is me the sky is falling

    Still only guilty of winning !

    But it's coming, just wait.
    Liberal playbook from A to Z. Hypocrisy is their main commodity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Steelersfan View Post
    In 2013, under His Lord Savior, the Black Grace, the Great Orator, the Speaker Divine, his Holiness and the FBP, he caused a 16 day Government shut down.

    It furloughed 800,000 employees and cost $24 BILLION.

    As with every other selective outrage moment, you didn't give one flying shit then. Those 800,000 people that were furloughed you did not shed a tear for.
    I'm not interested in the past! It's meaningless (unless it's anything Trump)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DBS1970 View Post
    It used to be done by private companies. The Airlines pushed for the formation of the TSA to limit their liability. It could be done by private companies again very easily.
    Also the govt employee unions since it would give them more dues-paying Democrat-voting members.
    "It is not the multitude of ale houses that occasions a disposition to drunkenness among the common people; but that disposition arising from other causes necessarily gives employment to a multitude of ale houses." -- Adam Smith, 1776

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    Shut it down. Fuck the Democratic counties around DC. Let them experience a recession for a change.
    But they went to a college better than ours.
    Their careers should be taking off

  20. #180
    I didn't even realize the government was shut down until a few days ago. I hadn't been following the news over the holidays. I still wouldn't know if i hadn't read about it. My daily life is not impacted at all.

    That's the real reason why Dems freak out over the shutdowns. They need it to end before people realize they really don't need all this extra bullshit they are being taxed for.

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