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    No time and I mean no time have the Steelers had this much talent on their roster and achieved so little the last five years with a franchise and future HOF QB, a future HOF and generational receiver, and an excellent #2 receive thats making a strong case to be #1, and a generational running back in LevBell. And add to that a defense with multiple #1 and #2 and #3 draft picks and done so little to develop these players. You have to wonder with a better HC and defensive coordinator and defensive assistants where this team could have been the last five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerFan448 View Post
    Butler is quickly becoming the Tomlin of coordinators here. The defense looks bad so often, but does just enough by the end of the season to have respectable finishes in yardage and points against. I don't necessarily think Butler is a bad DC. I also believe that we've seen our offense improve with two changes with OCs over the years. We could see the same happen with a change on the defensive side. Way too many first and second round picks in that unit to perform the way they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cubist View Post
    In reference to Butler, the D was 6th in yardage, 16th in scoring...not great, but not quite the abomination that it seemed to be. They were near the bottom in turnovers and had a nasty habit of crumbling at the end of games. Maybe they are figuring that personnel changes will fix the issues?

    I really wanted him gone but honestly can't say I'm shocked, especially when I play Devil's Advocate.
    Ok but there are stats and then there is
    Cleveland- collapse, game tying drive. Should have been game losing drive.
    KC- offense scored a ton. Still lost
    Chargers- Collapse
    Oak-Game losing drive
    Saints-Game losing drive
    Plus they had like 4 or 5 turnovers in the last 6 games. There is no bright side. The defense sucks and needs changes. Big changes. Not just Peezy.

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    This is honestly what I feel happens. Steelers allow Tomlin to ride out the next two years underperforming. Then decide not to renew his contract. So he will be a lame duck coach for one year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerSask View Post
    Ok but there are stats and then there is
    Cleveland- collapse, game tying drive. Should have been game losing drive.
    KC- offense scored a ton. Still lost
    Chargers- Collapse
    Oak-Game losing drive
    Saints-Game losing drive
    Plus they had like 4 or 5 turnovers in the last 6 games. There is no bright side. The defense sucks and needs changes. Big changes. Not just Peezy.
    1 defensive coaching change, I am still trying to soak that in. 1 fucking change. Same shitty ass scheme same shitty ass DC, just contract is up Pezzy left off from the hot mess. We better hold onto AB and bring in 3 other WRs, Ben mght have to pass for 7,000 yards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FordFairLane View Post
    This is honestly what I feel happens. Steelers allow Tomlin to ride out the next two years underperforming. Then decide not to renew his contract. So he will be a lame duck coach for one year.


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    Heís signed thru 2020 season. If what youíre saying let this guy continue to coach and under perform which means the team under performs for two more years, then we will have allowed Bensí final years to slip away. No thank you!


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    if we can get a faster cb than coty and one that once in a while can get some intc and if Marcus Allen or a fa S can help us get some intc or more passes batted and if Dupree can play like he did his rookie year that if we pick up player option. Plus a vet and ola adding in nickel dime sets, if you replace bostic with with a playmaking mlb like bush you have the range and a fa CB and 1 DL added and via the draft 2 DB's and a MLB the pieces are there since this was the year we played the least zone. coty neds to upgraded he is william gay smart but not fast and without the playmaking ability (6 pick sixes)

    I finally saw in the last 3 games some 4-3 formations where watt and Hargrave were at DE with Tyson or McCullers at NG, its clear McCullers sucks and give up on him. either resign Tyson or get a guy like wilkerson on 1 year prove it deal as mo can play both dt and de.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdk2 View Post
    Tomlin 100 percent wants to keep Butler around, cause he's an easy fall guy for Tomlin when the defense sucks once again.
    It'll be up to upper management to remove Butler. I think they know Tomlin will keep his hands on the defense no matter what so whats the point of even making a change, the defense will continue down a path of pure garbage.
    The only logical reason to keep Butler, and the only reason I'd stay if I was Butler, is if Shades has been pretty much running and fucking up the defense and Butler says he can do better next year if Shades remains hands-off and leaves him alone.
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    Butler and Tomlin calling the defense, trying to put square peg players in round holes. These two jokers remain. The special team's coach Danny Smith must be the Ringo Starr of the bunch. He's not very good, but okay he makes them laugh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by F83 View Post
    if we can get a faster cb than coty and one that once in a while can get some intc and if Marcus Allen or a fa S can help us get some intc or more passes batted and if Dupree can play like he did his rookie year that if we pick up player option. Plus a vet and ola adding in nickel dime sets, if you replace bostic with with a playmaking mlb like bush you have the range and a fa CB and 1 DL added and via the draft 2 DB's and a MLB the pieces are there since this was the year we played the least zone. coty neds to upgraded he is william gay smart but not fast and without the playmaking ability (6 pick sixes)

    I finally saw in the last 3 games some 4-3 formations where watt and Hargrave were at DE with Tyson or McCullers at NG, its clear McCullers sucks and give up on him. either resign Tyson or get a guy like wilkerson on 1 year prove it deal as mo can play both dt and de.
    The Steelers need a big nose tackle and an aggressive one at that to make their defense work.

    The whole concept is to have a NT that requires a double team to free up the playmakers to pull off their "exotic" blitzes.

    I agree with Coach. It's like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Although I do agree with you, that we need another safety.
    I don't think I'm giving up on Burns just yet. He had a bad season. Kid needs some confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    Butler and Tomlin calling the defense, trying to put square peg players in round holes. These two jokers remain. The special team's coach Danny Smith must be the Ringo Starr of the bunch. He's not very good, but okay he makes them laugh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerSask View Post
    Ok but there are stats and then there is
    Cleveland- collapse, game tying drive. Should have been game losing drive.
    KC- offense scored a ton. Still lost
    Chargers- Collapse
    Oak-Game losing drive
    Saints-Game losing drive
    Plus they had like 4 or 5 turnovers in the last 6 games. There is no bright side. The defense sucks and needs changes. Big changes. Not just Peezy.
    This is why I think they kept Butler. And why I also think Tomlin is skating by. They look at those games and think "If just one thing goes right we're in the playoffs". One FG, one stop, just one off side that wasn't called ETC.... they've convinced themselves that a tweak here and there will fix everything. It isn't the coaches fault it's just bad lucky, bad officiating, bad kicker and bad timing. Nothing wrong with the coaching staff, defense or scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F83 View Post
    if we can get a faster cb than coty and one that once in a while can get some intc and if Marcus Allen or a fa S can help us get some intc or more passes batted and if Dupree can play like he did his rookie year that if we pick up player option. Plus a vet and ola adding in nickel dime sets, if you replace bostic with with a playmaking mlb like bush you have the range and a fa CB and 1 DL added and via the draft 2 DB's and a MLB the pieces are there since this was the year we played the least zone. coty neds to upgraded he is william gay smart but not fast and without the playmaking ability (6 pick sixes)

    I finally saw in the last 3 games some 4-3 formations where watt and Hargrave were at DE with Tyson or McCullers at NG, its clear McCullers sucks and give up on him. either resign Tyson or get a guy like wilkerson on 1 year prove it deal as mo can play both dt and de.
    You had 6 unique "ifs" in that. If my aunt had balls...

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    And Vader, I'm still trying to figure out who shit the bed on holding on to and using a kicker with a mid-level groin pull all season. SOMEBODY d's that up right proper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsteel View Post
    We better hold onto AB and bring in 3 other WRs, Ben mght have to pass for 7,000 yards.

    fuck

    Now all yall beginning to understand what i been preaching

    The defense will continue to fail no matter what "schemes" they run


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    Steelers special teams finished nearly if not dead last in the league. They're penalized constantly costing valuable yards or giving opponents yards after play. And now it's been rumored Bozwell had been playing with some type of "groin injury"?? How does a coach allow an injued player to continue failing while injured?
    "Chewy" Smith would be fired in the corporate or blue collar world with those results. How does Smith even get to keep his job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Now all yall beginning to understand what i been preaching

    The defense will continue to fail no matter what "schemes" they run

    Amen
    It doesn't help that we some players who just don't get it. Dupree, and Burns are not very, well you know. Perhaps drafting smarter players might help.
    Out of smoke! Tomlin is 3-5 in his last eight playoff games, 3-6 if you include the Super Bowl loss to the Packers. He has won a playoff game in just 4 of his 12 seasons, and most of those came early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelhurt View Post
    So just listening to Aditi Kinkhabwala and she now thinks there could be another firing but wouldn't go out on the limb and say who she thought it would be. She did say something very telling though; that the team needs to hire a change management specialist to help Tomlin in his approach with dealing with the team and, and that she just spent a week in Baltimore and how different the approach was. That what she noticed is that the the coaches are teachers constantly teaching and coaching up the players, but didn't get the feeling she felt that way with our coaches. One other telling thing, she said we have the most talent of any team and its a shame since she thought we should be hoisting the trophy in February. Oh well Aditi, we all know how that shit goes with this organization.Art II needs to wake the fuck up if he wants this team to achieve their full potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelerfan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelerSask View Post
    Ok but there are stats and then there is
    Cleveland- collapse, game tying drive. Should have been game losing drive.
    KC- offense scored a ton. Still lost
    Chargers- Collapse
    Oak-Game losing drive
    Saints-Game losing drive
    Plus they had like 4 or 5 turnovers in the last 6 games. There is no bright side. The defense sucks and needs changes. Big changes. Not just Peezy.
    You'll get no argument from me on any of this. My problem is that I desperately feel the need to try and guess wtf the front office is thinking for some reason. I know it's pointless, I just love a good mystery.

    The decision to keep Danny Smith is egregious. Special teams really were the worst, hands down.
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