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Thread: Steelers Deal for Minkah Fitzpatrick

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    Quote Originally Posted by slashsteel View Post
    I think they have a projected comp 3rd. So that is a 2,3,4,4,7,7 I think..

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    Making this deal basically means the Steelers are changing their philosophy of building a team in the draft and it means we pretty much have NO 2020 draft. So, any holes we have to fill will be from free agent signings or keeping our own (including Bud, which will make many heads explode).

    Fitzpatrick, Bush, Edmunds and Watt are the future of this D, assuming we can afford them. Big contracts for all 4 when their current deals expire.

    I also love this quote from an ESPN article I read this morning: "The defense now has eight former first-round picks in its starting lineup. If Mike Tomlin can’t make that work …"

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    Love the move! Guy is a top 10 talent at a position we desperately need in his 2nd year in the league. Somebody was giving up a first for this guy and I’m glad it was us. He’s going to be a special player in this league. Unfortunately no way you’re getting him for a 2nd and especially with his contract.

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    Also, Sean Davis will be a good back up at safety when healthy. He’s not someone I would want to commit to being our starter for the next 4-5 years.

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    A healthy way to look at it, when pick #11 rolls around at the top of the draft next year, just slot in Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Steelers, and voila, you have your 1st round pick.

    Minkah is two years younger than Artie Burns and Cam Sutton, three years younger than Davis & Hilton...and a year younger than Dionte Johnson, for that matter.
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    There are good/potentially great players available through at least the top 5 rounds of the draft. Giving up a #1 for a 22-year old already good/likely-great player in a position of dire need on this defense was simply the obvious thing to do.


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    Jesus Christ! Last week you where all bitching because we couldn't get the deal done. Now you are bitching because we got the deal done.

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  8. #48
    This move was made because Ben, Tomlin, and Colbert are done in 3 years. They are trying to win and not necessarily this season considering Minkah has 4 years left. They know Ben will be back next year to make a run, this isnít because they think Mason is Godís gift to them.


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    My only question now is how do they ease him onto the field in his first/short/west coast trip week while at the same time keeping Kam Kelly's snaps to a minimum :)

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    Also, with Fitz in the starting lineup and including Baron over Vince, this D is compromised of 8 first round picks, 1 second rounder, and 2 third rounders. If they still can't get their act together, then Butler definitely absolutely for certain needs to go.

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  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by stillwright View Post
    Apparently this move was made for not just this season but many years after also. Don't be so short-sighted.
    Prudent observation.

    The Steelers essentially received their 2020 1st round draft choice a year early. I place the value of the player right now as well above the lost late round choices that Miami received.

    It has been very well noted in so many threads, that having a HOF QB like BR likely has extended the stay of Mr. Tomlin. I personally, am not a fan of his. I rarely see this team prepared for their opponents where emphasis is being placed on attacking weaknesses based on their film study, tendencies, what have you.

    It's the same recipe of plays fed to their opponents, and 'beat me if you can' approach.

    I'm still stewing about losing Tuzar to the Giants. Watching Jarvis Dupree out there is mind numbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    A healthy way to look at it, when pick #11 rolls around at the top of the draft next year, just slot in Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Steelers, and voila, you have your 1st round pick.

    Minkah is two years younger than Artie Burns and Cam Sutton, three years younger than Davis & Hilton...and a year younger than Dionte Johnson, for that matter.
    Except that the "draft pick" that is Fitzpatrick will be 2 years older and have a rookie contract that is two years shorter and his big money deal will come two years quicker.

    That is partly why draft picks are valued so highly by GM's even though their success rates are not the same as 1st-contract veterans (who, I guess have NFL tape and a better guarantee of fitting in the system).

    It's an interesting move. Very un-Steeler like. Very un-Colbert like.

    To me it kind of reeks of being ready for 2020 WITH Roethlisberger back. That they already have assurances from the doctors and Roethlisberger himself that he will be back in 2020.

    Because you'd think, that if it was the other way and they were in the market for potential QB's, they would keep 1st round picks just in case Rudolf doesn't work out.

    Either that or they are oblivious to Roethlisberger's potential retirement or too arrogant in their evaluation of Rudolf already. And believe me, I don't put that past Tombert at all.

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    Ease him on to the field? Good lord, this team is 0-2, on the road playing a resurgent SF 49er squad that is 2 and 0 AND we lost Big Ben for the season.
    You can’t afford to ease anyone onto the field.
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    Just remember. Guys like Lou Holtz, Bill Parcels were able to go to garbage teams with little talent and get the defense to play tough. We have how many first rounders, and can not even slow down a team. It does not matter who they bring in. The coaching staff are complete idiots. Tomlin would need the AFC Pro Bowl team to look average as a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkman dan View Post
    Also, with Fitz in the starting lineup and including Baron over Vince, this D is compromised of 8 first round picks, 1 second rounder, and 2 third rounders. If they still can't get their act together, then Butler definitely absolutely for certain needs to go.
    I mentioned this from an article on ESPN. But, Tomlin has been running the D since LeBeau left. Rooney won't fire him so Butler will be the scapegoat. Nothing will change unless Tomlin changes or is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skline00 View Post
    Ease him on to the field? Good lord, this team is 0-2, on the road playing a resurgent SF 49er squad that is 2 and 0 AND we lost Big Ben for the season.
    You can’t afford to ease anyone onto the field.
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    Therein lies the implied humor of my post. A guy traveling to his new team on a Tuesday, going to the opposite coast in a couple of days, with those perceived obstacles impeding his getting up to speed in the system still being a more viable option than Kam Kelly. I'll put two smiley faces this time :) :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron95 View Post
    Jesus Christ! Last week you where all bitching because we couldn't get the deal done. Now you are bitching because we got the deal done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by milkman dan View Post
    Also, with Fitz in the starting lineup and including Baron over Vince, this D is compromised of 8 first round picks, 1 second rounder, and 2 third rounders. If they still can't get their act together, then Butler and the other DC as well definitely absolutely for certain needs to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TDX27 View Post
    I mentioned this from an article on ESPN. But, Tomlin has been running the D since LeBeau left. Rooney won't fire him so Butler will be the scapegoat. Nothing will change unless Tomlin changes or is gone.
    For the record, I think Butler should have been let go this past off-season. Also, we've seen the Offense change for the better with moves Tomlin has made, so I'm open to him bringing someone of his choosing in. And I know, I know, tOmLiN nEedS t0 gO, but I'm dealing with what I think is realistic and could objectively happen, not the entire front office getting fired in January or starters getting cut post game.

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    I like the move, I just wish it wasn't for a first.

    Doesn't matter though, we can get that first back when we trade Ben next year...

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