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    Holy fuck, let's cite late night talk show hosts when talking about the state of our Constitutional Republic.

    Again, holy fuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelworth View Post
    Holy fuck, let's cite late night talk show hosts when talking about the state of our Constitutional Republic.

    Again, holy fuck.
    Late night comics, and SNL, have become the new morality peddlers on the left. How pathetic.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamster View Post
    Late night comics, and SNL, have become the new morality peddlers on the left. How pathetic.
    Nah, just a slice of life you all pretend doesn't exist. Good on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Nah, just a slice of life you all pretend doesn't exist. Good on you.
    Comics use to go for laughs, now they go for claps. No thank you. I want to be entertained, not woke shamed.
    You lost. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Why? If he is to be impeached, the charges against him are in the impeachment articles for all to see. Why would I list them here, or anywhere else? You can read them for yourself.

    And I'm not interested in playing the sad, tired game of whataboutism. Which is all the Trump base seems to be interested in. What about this, what about that? What about Obama, what about Dem corruption, what about the deep state? I'm just tracking and following Trump's trials and tribulations along with the rest of you. He's the President now, this shit show is all his doing and yours to own. I think he's a danger to the country, you don't. I think he's a sociopath, a liar and a scumbag, you don't. I think he's driven US foreign policy into the ground, you don't. I think he's abused the power of his office, you don't. I think he obstructed justice, you don't. I think it's a huge problem that he invites and welcomes foreign interference in our elections, you don't. I want to see him impeached and removed from office, you clearly don't.

    We've both been watching and listening to the same President over the past three years and see two completely different storylines playing out. I'm alright with that. I understand his supporters will go to the wall for him. I'll respectfully disagree and post my views here, as I've done for 10+ years. I'm not here to change anyone's mind or to prove a point. I just call it as I see, as do all of you. We just happen to fundamentally disagree on this President. So be it.
    yet that is precisely what you are doing. You're crowing for Trump to be impeached, when all the man simply did was suggest the Ukraine president look into instances of corruption in his country. No aid was ever withheld. Not even for a minute. The Ukrainian president said as much.

    and you quite simply cannot say that Trump did order aid be withheld and call it an abuse of power and conveniently look the other way when it's pointed out that an ex VPOTUS did precisely what Trump is being accused of and is running for POTUS in 2020. That, my friend, is the sheer, italicized, underlined, bolded, impact fonted definition of hypcrisy. And a reason why many roll their eyes and scoff when a card-carrying, blue-blooded Democrat calls for impeachment due to alleged abuse of power.

    Our country's politicians should be working together. Instead, those on the left are doing nothing but causing further division. Which was their modus operandi for eight years.

    You won't hear me say that Trump acts presidential, as he doesn't many times. But, you also have to look at how we got to having this man in the White House.You cannot do that without looking at the previous administration and leveling some blame. a lot, to be fair.

    You're continuing to see Trump through blue-tinted glasses and condemning the man for what the media tells you, shows you or says you should condemn him for. Others have been to his actual rallies (as suggested above) and can relay precisely what was said and how the media spun it. For crying out loud at the sky, even you said Trump blatantly called on Russia to find Hillary's lost emails. The man was being facetious when he said that since he was 100% speaking about the accusations being leveled against him by the DNC. Yet the media spun it to a way that makes him look bad, worse and worst and those who do not question what the media sells took it hook, line and sinker.

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    I couldn't care less whether he is an asshole or the nicest guy on the planet, I'll likely never meet him.

    I do care about whether I will make enough money to live my life in a manner that justifies how hard I work.

    I care that there are enough jobs for everyone who wants to work.

    I care that my very limited investments grow at a rate that suggests I might be able to retire some day, instead of having to work until I die so I can pay in to a 'collective' of people who don't work of have recently snuck into our country.

    I care that we have a President that ensured that rapes in America haven't increased by 1000%+ in the past three years, the way they have in Europe.


    These are all things that Barack Obama couldn't do, and Hillary Clinton wouldn't do.

    But I agree with Tibs that there isn't any point in comparing Trump to Obama, they are worlds apart in ability. Picture a 6 year old girl in her kitchen struggling to open a jar of pickles for 8 years, that was Obama. She gives up and says its hopeless, she'll never have pickles again, so she should just get used to it. Then her dad walks into the kitchen, picks up the jar, effortlessly spins the cap off and hands it to the girl so she can enjoy her favorite snack, the dad is Trump. The girl's mom then tries to make the girl feel better by telling her that her dad was only able to open the jar at all because the little girl loosened it for him, this is the media.

    Comparing Trump to Obama is like comparing a grown man to a little girl. Daddy's job isn't to be your friend, its to simply put food on his family's table, something not enough people were able to do for eight years prior to Trump.

    And spare me the 'its about civility' bullshit. George Bush was the picture of civility, he ate the media's shit for eight years without response, and you hated him too.
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    Once again, where are the crimes? They are demanding Trunp give them access to basically every document in his life and he said No and is going to the courts. You know, that 3rd branch of government. He has acted properly. It's the Dems abusing power by essentially declaring themselves all powerful.

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    Trump can ask any world leader to investigate whomever he wants. Bottom line.

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    On the full IG report, here's a fun exercise. Do a find for comey and see how many hits it gets. Then do a Find for corney with an RN instead of the M and see how many hits it gets.

    Probably just a quirky accident.....
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    Trump can ask any world leader to investigate whomever he wants. Bottom line.
    No he can't. We've been told that he has to check with unelected bureaucrats first and if they sign off on his idea, then THEY will handle the communications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibs View Post
    Thatís a poignant observation. Did your white sheets & hood get back from the dry cleaners, or are you still waiting on them?

    Canít get enough of the faux outrage on the board when the Trump base - at least a part of it - is accused of racism & anti-Semitism.

    Itís in the air, I tell ya.
    Groundhog Day Tibsy!

    "Everyone else is a racist nazi!!!"

    lather, rinse, repeat

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    I know this is hard to believe, but CNN and MSNBC are not airing the live Senate hearing on the IG report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport View Post
    I know this is hard to believe, but CNN and MSNBC are not airing the live Senate hearing on the IG report.
    "Madness is the exception in individuals but the rule in groups" - Nietzsche

    "We need to invent technology thatís never even been invented yet.Ē - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesDavenport View Post
    I know this is hard to believe, but CNN and MSNBC are not airing the live Senate hearing on the IG report.
    Current CNN headline: Graham Pokes Holes in FBI Russia Investigation

    This forum should be renamed ďAlternative RealityĒ

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    As has been pointed out many times previously, yet ignored over and over again by the befuddled and deeply confused Trump base. Maybe it needs to be bolded, written in size 100 font and pinned to the top of the board.


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    And to think Ivanka was banging Christopher Steele and kept it a secret this whole time? Trump truly has turned this presidency into a next-level reality tv show.



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    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...WJX2gwjPx0I6tc

    Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is set to testify Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee on his findings regarding alleged surveillance abuse during the 2016 election.

    Horowitz's report, released Monday, found that the FBI's decision to open a probe into Trump campaign associates was not motivated by political bias. Still, the watchdog found “significant inaccuracies and omissions” in the FBI's application to the secretive court created by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) as part of its efforts to monitor former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

    The report opened up a high-profile split within the Department of Justice (DOJ), and Horowitz's dual findings have allowed lawmakers to cherry-pick their talking points, a dynamic that is expected to be on display during the hearing Wednesday. Democrats say the report shut down a conspiracy theory that the Trump campaign was "spied" on, while Republicans believe it backs up their assertion that the FBI abused its power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troglodyte View Post
    Current CNN headline: Graham Pokes Holes in FBI Russia Investigation

    This forum should be renamed “Alternative Reality”
    You do understand what the word "airing" means. He's referring to what's on TV. You're referring to what's on their web page.

    Speaking of alternative realities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Steelersfan View Post
    You do understand what the word "airing" means. He's referring to what's on TV. You're referring to what's on their web page.

    Speaking of alternative realities.
    And the relevance of not airing it on TV when they are posting coverage to their headline?

    Who wants to watch hours of postgame? The fans of the losing team wanting to grouse about questionable, albeit inconsequential, penalties. Have fun.

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