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    Creepy Joe once again says that criminal illegal aliens are more American than we American citizens are. (and ALL Dim candidates want to provide free healthcare for the illegals with our tax dollars. Fuck the legal citizens.)

    During a campaign rally in Reno, Nevada on Tuesday, former Vice President Joe Biden (D) said illegal aliens who are shielded from deportation by former President Obama’s Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program are “more American than most Americans are.”

    While speaking to a crowd of supporters, Biden accused American citizens of being less American than even the roughly 800,000 to 3.5 million DACA illegal aliens living in the United States while touting his plan to provide them all with amnesty:

    Once again, legalize all the DACA students. These DACA students are more American than most Americans are. No, I’m serious.

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    Bloomberg qualifies for the next Dem debate, he will be on the stage

    Go get him Bernie Bros!

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Bloomberg qualifies for the next Dem debate, he will be on the stage

    Go get him Bernie Bros!

    lol
    He's stepped into too much shit of late. Bloomberg Air will be grounded soon.

    Bloomberg’s ‘mercenaries’: Billionaire Dem funding network of climate lawyers inside state AG offices

    A program funded by 2020 presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg is paying the salaries of lawyers who are farmed out to liberal state attorney general offices to pursue climate-based litigation -- a compact critics say amounts to Bloomberg buying state law enforcement employees to advance his preferred political agenda.

    The arrangement, which currently pays the salaries of Special Assistant Attorneys General (SAAGs) in 10 Democratic AG offices, is drawing new scrutiny now that Bloomberg is running for president. The New York University School of Law's State Energy & Environmental Impact Center, which was started in 2017 with $5.6 million from Bloomberg's nonprofit, hires mid-career lawyers as "research fellows" before providing them to state AGs where they assist in pursuing "progressive" policy goals through the courts........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Bloomberg qualifies for the next Dem debate, he will be on the stage

    Go get him Bernie Bros!

    lol
    I hope they show the giant box that he'll be standing on behind the podium to give the illusion that he's not a gnome. A commie gnome. Giving the dwarf a box is size discrimination against the other commies. #GiveAllTheCommiesBoxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Burgundy View Post
    Pros: A lot of the Dems are fine with it if they think he can beat Trump.
    Cons: The Dem base has been telling us that rich old white men have been the problem for a long time now and their top three candidates (Biden, Sanders, and Bloomberg) are rich old white men.
    Isn't that hilarious. They trot out a hair sniffing creepy old man dumber than shit, a life long commie bum who has never worked a day in his life and a stupid rich lefto slum lord with a napoleon complex.

    All older than dirt.
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    I'm fine with a one time DACA relief or amnesty if it is part of negotiating with democrats to get a far-reaching immigration reform law passed.

    We need to clarify, once and for all, so the whole world knows, what our immigration policy is. What is legal. What is illegal. And how illegal crossings are enforced and penalized. Clarify asylum and prevent the abuse of that loophole. Decide if the executive branch really has the power to decide where and how many legal immigration comes from (unilaterally, at his/her discretion). We need to decide if chain immigration by families is what we want or does a merit based system make more sense.

    I mean, even if you are a democrat, don't you want all this stuff in a law once and for all so there's no more debate and argument?

    This should have been taken care of decades ago, but no one wants to decide. Trump rattling cages is TRYING to get something done but democrats just call him the boogie man and boohoo every effort he makes to negotiate something (or take him to court with frivolous lawsuits in the joke 9th circuit).

    Again, I am willing to LISTEN to what democrats offer as an end game to immigration, but I have yet to hear ONE FUCKING plan for what immigration is supposed to look like and what they do with illegals. Not one. Instead they just run around like chickens with their heads cut off yelling "Bad, Bad, Bad" and basing all their decisions on emotions and sob stories.

    Once the Supreme Court rules on DACA in Trump's favor (which they will) and once Trump wins re-election (which he will), with or without the House/Senate majority, major immigration reform is close. I mean 2021 close (maybe even this year, but I doubt it during an election year). Spring of 2021 could be YUGE for immigration reform - FINALLY - and a decision on what we want immigration to look like once and for all (at least for the next couple of decades).

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    Quote Originally Posted by deljzc View Post
    I'm fine with a one time DACA relief or amnesty if it is part of negotiating with democrats to get a far-reaching immigration reform law passed.
    Terrible idea. We did that once under Reagan and got this crap in return. The dems don't care about border security or illegal aliens. They want to give them free college and free health care. There is no way they are going to close the border if they ever get into power. Most want to tear the wall down. They know they can't win unless they change the demographics of the country.

    I'll never support amnesty because the dems have already shown themselves unfaithful in their promises. Also no republican can win on a platform of amnesty. Trump would be defeated in 2020 if he did anything like that. And he should be. I'd close all immigration, legal and illegal. We don't need more people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Terrible idea. We did that once under Reagan and got this crap in return. The dems don't care about border security or illegal aliens. They want to give them free college and free health care. There is no way they are going to close the border if they ever get into power. Most want to tear the wall down. They know they can't win unless they change the demographics of the country.

    I'll never support amnesty because the dems have already shown themselves unfaithful in their promises. Also no republican can win on a platform of amnesty. Trump would be defeated in 2020 if he did anything like that. And he should be. I'd close all immigration, legal and illegal. We don't need more people.
    It's not Amnesty for all 11 million (which is the democrat platform), but JUST Dreamers, which actually polls pretty favorably among both left and right.

    You have to give up something or any bill will be philabustered and nothing will ever get done. Giving up DACA is a logical choice. You have to fight democrats with their own medicine: emotion and heart strings. To get immigration reform (REAL reform) I am willing to let 1-2 million young people who have been here as children stay or have a path to citizenship.

    You fight this Indy, and nothing will ever get done. DACA amnesty is going to happen now or later. It is best to use it as a bargaining chip now to get the best deal on everything else Republicans want on the issue rather than lose the chip altogether.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deljzc View Post

    You fight this Indy, and nothing will ever get done.
    Shhhhh....pssssst....it's Vader you're speaking with.

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    Yeah, don't insult Vader.

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    BOOM!




    Sanders surges to double-digit lead in new nationwide poll


    Sanders 31% (+9)
    Bloomberg 19% (+15)
    Biden 15% (-9)
    Warren 12% (-5)
    Klobuchar 9% (+5)
    Buttigieg 8% (-5)
    Steyer 2% (+1)

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-20...rren-and-pete/

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    Bernie fills the Tacoma Dome







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    Quote Originally Posted by deljzc View Post
    It's not Amnesty for all 11 million (which is the democrat platform), but JUST Dreamers, which actually polls pretty favorably among both left and right.

    You have to give up something or any bill will be philabustered and nothing will ever get done. Giving up DACA is a logical choice. You have to fight democrats with their own medicine: emotion and heart strings. To get immigration reform (REAL reform) I am willing to let 1-2 million young people who have been here as children stay or have a path to citizenship.

    You fight this Indy, and nothing will ever get done. DACA amnesty is going to happen now or later. It is best to use it as a bargaining chip now to get the best deal on everything else Republicans want on the issue rather than lose the chip altogether.
    That's the problem... the only thing that will get done is the dreamers will get amnesty and you'll get nothing. It's always that way. BTW you should look at the stats of "dreamers". From the crime prevention research center "while undocumented immigrants from 15 to 35 years of age make up about 0.81 percent of the Arizona population, they make up almost 8 percent of the prison population.”

    I'll pass. Again you seem to think that the dems are going to do as they say. They won't. Just like the did with Reagan. It's an illogical choice. If you want heart strings look at all the children and adults killed by illegal aliens. Look at the families destroyed by them. Look at the prisons full of them. Look at MS 13 tormenting the legal immigrants. That's where you need to pull heart strings. Not over a bunch of thugs and criminal "Dreamers".

    Right now Trump is doing something. Closing the border and using ICE in sanctuary cities. Fact is the dems are never going to close the border. It would be suicide for them. So it isn't happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I'll pass. Again you seem to think that the dems are going to do as they say. They won't. Just like the did with Reagan. … Right now Trump is doing something. Closing the border and using ICE in sanctuary cities. Fact is the dems are never going to close the border. It would be suicide for them. So it isn't happening.
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    I want to see if I have this straight. The current (D)im contest pits a billionaire capitalist against a do-nothing communist, where neither is actually a (D)imocrat?

    The Jim Crow & KKK (D)ims would be so proud.
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    Of course I'm despicable...

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    Go Bernie or Bust!

    Rip that 3 term Republican mayor Wall Street racist, sexist billionaires guts out! How dare he try to buy your Dem nomination!I

    Sic the Bernie Bros on him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndySteel View Post
    Bloomingfuckingidiot: Democratic presidential hopeful Mike Bloomberg once claimed during a television appearance that an “enormous cohort” of young black and Latino males “don’t know how to behave in the workplace.”

    Just imagine the assploding by the libtards if Trump uttered such words.

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    It's on!


    Bloomberg campaign writes off Biden

    TALLAHASSEE — Mike Bloomberg’s campaign said the Democratic presidential race is down to a two-man contest — and Joe Biden isn’t one of the men in the mix.

    “Mike is quite clearly in a strong second place in this primary and rising rapidly above the rest of the field, which is either stagnant or declining quickly,’’ Kanninen told reporters on a conference call. “None of the other Democrats beside Mike or Bernie is in a position to amass delegates in a serious way on Super Tuesday.”

    https://www.politico.com/states/flor...-biden-1261872

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    WTF??? Bloomberg is only in this because of his $$....check...this.

    Mike Bloomberg Would Be the First President to Openly Support Death Panels

    Mike Bloomberg Said Elderly Cancer Patients Should Be Denied Treatment To Cut Costs



    Billionaire and Democratic presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg said in a 2011 video that elderly cancer patients should be denied treatment in order to cut health care costs.

    “All of these costs keep going up, nobody wants to pay any more money, and at the rate we’re going, health care is going to bankrupt us,” said Bloomberg, who was then New York City’s mayor.

    “We’ve got to sit here and say which things we’re going to do, and which things we’re not, nobody wants to do that. Y’know, if you show up with prostate cancer, you’re 95 years old, we should say, ‘Go and enjoy. Have a nice [inaudible]. Live a long life. There’s no cure, and we can’t do anything.’ If you’re a young person, we should do something about it,” Bloomberg said in the video.

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    If it ends up being Trump v Bloomberg in the election, Tibs would vote for THIS folks, for your elderly cancer-laden relatives to die, becaus...potted plant and all that.

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    Tibs will be a supporter of BigGulp MiniMike in the next few weeks, and deny any of the shit attached to him.

    He did the same for Avenatti, declaring him a Presidential candidate just because CNN made him infamous for publicizing a porn star.

    So he will back this turd when Unka Georg tells him too, around Super Toosday.

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